She tells Sophy: "I absolutely have no doubt that any Labour government will always be better than a Conservative government. Ms Hodgson says she too backs a humanitarian corridor between the Gaza Strip and Egypt - but "it does feel like, you know, if ever there was a hope that there would be a solution, it feels harder than ever"Įmily Thornberry - who was in Jeremy Corbyn's shadow cabinet and is also in Sir Keir's top team - says she "of course" wanted the former leader to be prime minister. "So I think now's the time to exercise restraint as much as possible, although I understand the feelings of anger." "We could have the Middle East going up in flames now if we're not careful. He also notes the tensions on Israel's northern border with Lebanon. He calls on the international community to pressure Israel into restraint, as well as supporting plans for a humanitarian corridor out of the Gaza Strip as we are facing a situation where the area "is levelled" and "innocent people who had nothing to do with Hamas are going to be killed - children in particular". "And to watch that happening, both those Israeli children who got murdered, but now it's happening to the Palestinian children". And our children are the most precious gift in our lives out there. Mr McDonnell says: "I'm a dad, I'm a granddad. Sophy asks the pair how they feel about the conflict between Israel and Hamas.īoth say they - like Sophy - view it through the lens of the children impacted. "And I think if we don't get down to that level of detail, we're going to lose the momentum if we're not careful."įormer shadow chancellor John McDonnell and ex-Number 10 adviser Lucia Hodgson are on our panel today. "You need time to announce them, to rebut the criticisms, and then explain to me what it means to them individually in that community. He said the timescales - an election is expected in around a year's time - should allow the party to "bed in" its policies, something which was not afforded to him and Jeremy Corbyn in 2019. Meanwhile, Mr McDonnell says it almost felt a bit more like a business conference than a Labour conference due to the corporate presence.Īnd he said that, while the speeches were good, Sir Keir Starmer would need to show what happens next and fill in policies ahead of the next general election. "I thought it was interesting that Starmer went for kind of a big, colourful vision, whereas sort of Rishi the week before, you know, it was the three sorts of specific policies, so slightly different." "I thought the speech was very impassioned. There also were not "a lot of existential questions around who are we and what are we doing". She says Labour was "quietly confident but not being over celebratory". Ms Hodgson, who worked for the Conservatives, said she had "a good time" at the Labour conference. Now our panel of former shadow chancellor John McDonnell and ex-Number 10 adviser Lucia Hodgson discuss how the Labour Party conference went.
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